8 U.S.C. § 1325 says you may not enter the US without permission.

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There are rules that state how and when a non Us entity may enter the US. Laws are laws.

This asshole announces he WILL not enforce US law and calls it immoral. And then slobbers about some "public need" to ensure criminals are helped just like others to provide some sort of umbrella effect for legal folks.

Fuck him, AND fuck reddit too for being a festering sewer of ANTI-American values.

Not in the US legally? Fuck off. Get the fuck out. Shitter's full. We have enough low wage, low education, breeders, we don't need any more.

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1ppsk97/minneapolis_police_chief_brian_ohara_calls_out

 

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To clarify my position:

EVERYONE should get due process.

1. Suspicion.
2. Apprehend.
3. Detention.
4. Process.
5. Deport or release for further processing and adjudication.
6. 1-5 in short order. Hold no one longer than 72 hours if possible.

Fund the system properly. Close the fucking border.

If you are here ILLEGALLY, one day or 30 years then fuck you, get the fuck out. Present yourself to a detention center and get processed and you get an automatic chance to reenter PROPERLY. If the law has to come get you then fuck off permanently and NO retry allowed.

Had kids as an ILLEGAL? Then fuck YOU and them goddamn kids. NO anchor babies and NO automatic citizenship for illegal aliens.

Its 2025 not 1825. We got too many freeloaders and worthless breeders now.

The Orange Menace and his google eyed goons have ham fisted this so hard that they are losing public support.

 

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Had kids as an ILLEGAL? Then fuck YOU and them goddamn kids. NO anchor babies and NO automatic citizenship for illegal aliens.

The rest of your post; no notes. But this line makes me have to ask: Do you believe in birthright citizenship? Or did the constitution get that wrong?

 

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The rest of your post; no notes. But this line makes me have to ask: Do you believe in birthright citizenship? Or did the constitution get that wrong?

The constitution got it wrong. Yes. The US is an outlier in respect to "Birth Right" citizenship.

Since We, the US, are still the number one destination for the poor, destitute and needy as WELL AS the grifters, criminals, terrorist, anarchists, and assorted evil doers then WE the US can not longer ignore the insanity of allowing a border jumper to "anchor" themselves and generations after with a child birthed in the US.

The argument of that it will create a wave of "stateless" humans is INVALID in my view since the birth mother is a state human its child would inherent that state, hence they ALL get deported to the origin state.



The reality is, is that you people that want a Socialist Haven simply can NOT ignore that fact that you cant have wholesale immigration in to a finite system of resource. END Birth right citizenship and you kill a major incentive that fuels the illegal immigration "industry".

 

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The constitution got it wrong. Yes. The US is an outlier in respect to "Birth Right" citizenship.

Fuck that. Birthright citizenship isn't an obstacle in the way towards making our system work. If our system can't function under the auspice of birthright citizenship being a thing, it's a failed system and it fucking sucks and it needs replacing and/or augmenting at a fundamental level. Your "fix" that the stateless child will automatically go back to the birthplace of the mother falls apart as soon as the country/ region rejects them because they weren't born there. Which of fucking course they would do because, duh, they weren't born there. Cool idea though, bro.

Also I feel like you're painting America like it's the biggest immigration black hole on the planet. Like we're a uniquely sinking ship due to the extra weight of immigrants. lol. Pretty much every European country would like to offer you a tissue. Even our illegal immigrants to the country pay out more in tax revenue on whole than they suck from the system you're so worried about. Statistically, they commit less crime than your average legal American, though I do respect that number would be zero if they weren't here illegally.

Allowing illegal immigration is an obvious net-negative, for sure. No question. But Birthright Citizenship isn't about stopping anchor babies. It's about stopping paranoid xenophobic governments from making stateless babies.

END Birth right citizenship and you kill a major incentive that fuels the illegal immigration "industry".

End birthright citizenship and you kill what it means to be an American because you're afraid.

 

[Goddamn_Prick]

Fuck that. Birthright citizenship isn't an obstacle in the way towards making our system work. If our system can't function under the auspice of birthright citizenship being a thing, it's a failed system and it fucking sucks and it needs replacing and/or augmenting at a fundamental level. Your "fix" that the stateless child will automatically go back to the birthplace of the mother falls apart as soon as the country/ region rejects them because they weren't born there. Which of fucking course they would do because, duh, they weren't born there. Cool idea though, bro.

Also I feel like you're painting America like it's the biggest immigration black hole on the planet. Like we're a uniquely sinking ship due to the extra weight of immigrants. lol. Pretty much every European country would like to offer you a tissue. Even our illegal immigrants to the country pay out more in tax revenue on whole than they suck from the system you're so worried about. Statistically, they commit less crime than your average legal American, though I do respect that number would be zero if they weren't here illegally.

Allowing illegal immigration is an obvious net-negative, for sure. No question. But Birthright Citizenship isn't about stopping anchor babies. It's about stopping paranoid xenophobic governments from making stateless babies.


End birthright citizenship and you kill what it means to be an American because you're afraid.

Well, yes. Our system is failing, that's for sure. The last five to six months I've been hearing and reading about the system NEEDING to depend on ILLEGAL work forces, otherwise out industry would no longer be able to offer "low prices" or that entire industrial systems DEPEND on the illegal workforce.

You OK with that? That is basically slavery. Companies going outside the normal hiring practice, circumventing the labor laws, OSHA and so on as a matter of business as usual seems like a failed system to me.

YOU want the system to keep harboring illegality and running a scam immigration system simply to feed the low wage sector of America?

Not me. Nope. And I'm not afraid of the fallout from the loss of slave wage-labor.

Damn, I thought you were cooler than that.

 

[Chapped Ass]

Well, yes. Our system is failing, that's for sure. The last five to six months I've been hearing and reading about the system NEEDING to depend on ILLEGAL work forces, otherwise out industry would no longer be able to offer "low prices" or that entire industrial systems DEPEND on the illegal workforce.

You OK with that?

No. I think that's wrong and stupid. In fact I don't understand why we're not prosecuting business for hiring illegal immigrants. If you run a business that would go bankrupt if not for employing illegals, your business should fail. It was a horrible business model in the first place.

That is basically slavery.

I'm impressed you see it as such. I agree.

Companies going outside the normal hiring practice, circumventing the labor laws, OSHA and so on as a matter of business as usual seems like a failed system to me.

Seriously, why aren't these companies being prosecuted?! Do we literally not have any laws against this practice? Oh, ya know what I just thought? What if they're using those companies as collection points to round them up? I mean what else explains the apparent total blind spot when it comes to the criminality of businesses doing this?

YOU want the system to keep harboring illegality and running a scam immigration system simply to feed the low wage sector of America?

Not me. Nope. And I'm not afraid of the fallout from the loss of slave wage-labor.

It does matter that they put more into the system than they take out. There will be fallout. But, immigration isn't really my biggest complaint about this administration. If it were handled in a less fascist way; if they didn't support ICE agents wearing masks for example, I might actually be a fan of how this administration has made so many headways into handling the border crisis. I've never spoken out about illegal immigrants getting kicked out. I think going into courthouses where they are actually trying to work within the system to get legal is a bit heavy handed and we can argue over that. But by and large, I'm not an enemy of doing whatever is necessary to see criminals trying to jump the border illegally get the justice they deserve.

Damn, I thought you were cooler than that.

I am. See?