Chapped Ass
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How do ya'll feel about DHS's take on both ICE shootings?
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Goddamn_Prick
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I am really disappointed in how this all has been handled.
The immigration issue was something I thought was FINALLY going to be taken care of properly. Public sentiment to the expanded enforcement actions, closing of the border and other actions was poised to be very positive because Biden, and previous presidents, fucked it up in real time for the last 50 years. I am VERY VERY anti illegal immigration, while I am also very interested in having a properly funded enforcement AND adjudication system so that due process can take place. (due process for an illegal is not the same thing as another person gets in the US legal system, look it up for yourself if you want to know more.)
But the ham fisted methods from quickly hired agents with little real world training was doomed from the start. You can not put people in the field that have never worked together, shooting a suspect that was on the ground while your fellow officers are standing near by is clearly a rookie move. It happens though. Chaos adds to the problem.
Goode and Pretti are not the angels the reddit goons claim them to have been. But They SHOULD STILL BE ALIVE though, should not have died for their actions. Both shootings were failings by Law enforcement from controlling crowds while ICE were active in the area and by poorly trained or overly aggressive ICE agents. Crowds SHOULD NEVER be allowed to hound and impede law enforcement while a policing action is taking place. NEVER, And yet it still is an ongoing thing that until recently was being allowed to happen by Minnesota officials.
Trump
Is gonna Trump. He's a moron that bloviates. There really isn't a sane way to expect change from him, he's gonna be an Orange menace for the next few years. No getting around it. With his near imperial presidential powers there is not really a sane way to see him being forced to change either.
Stephen Miller
Is the architect that is the chief injector of chaos in these matters. His insistence on "mandatory daily numbers" of arrested illegals is what directly led to the primary issues of platoons of masked, under identified, ICE agents acting like goon squads.
Kristi Noem
She is the mouth-piece that is fanning the flames the most, because she makes baseless claims within minutes of the two events. That was dumb. I have no confidence in her ability to run a department like DHS. She's too subservient to Miller. Not something a Chief of department should be.
Greg Bovino
Hyped up gonk that needs a time out. Dude is too roid-raged to be running an agency of ARMED law enforcement personnel.
Tom Homan
I, mostly, agree with his approach. He is the professional in the room.
ICE needs to pull back off the streets, stay in fortified Federal locations and do daily runs to arrest known illegals WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT help. Local political leaders MUST help ICE by assigning policing to them. The FEDERAL government should give BLOCK GRANTS to pay for this in a timely manner. No more of these roving bands of masked agents. It MUST be supported by local police. Local police MUST do crowd control to alleviate these random morons getting in the face of ICE officers. Local police are short staffed, and if that means fewer ICE raids then so be it.
well damn .. as I was writing the above Tom Homan gave a press conference.
The immigration issue was something I thought was FINALLY going to be taken care of properly. Public sentiment to the expanded enforcement actions, closing of the border and other actions was poised to be very positive because Biden, and previous presidents, fucked it up in real time for the last 50 years. I am VERY VERY anti illegal immigration, while I am also very interested in having a properly funded enforcement AND adjudication system so that due process can take place. (due process for an illegal is not the same thing as another person gets in the US legal system, look it up for yourself if you want to know more.)
But the ham fisted methods from quickly hired agents with little real world training was doomed from the start. You can not put people in the field that have never worked together, shooting a suspect that was on the ground while your fellow officers are standing near by is clearly a rookie move. It happens though. Chaos adds to the problem.
Goode and Pretti are not the angels the reddit goons claim them to have been. But They SHOULD STILL BE ALIVE though, should not have died for their actions. Both shootings were failings by Law enforcement from controlling crowds while ICE were active in the area and by poorly trained or overly aggressive ICE agents. Crowds SHOULD NEVER be allowed to hound and impede law enforcement while a policing action is taking place. NEVER, And yet it still is an ongoing thing that until recently was being allowed to happen by Minnesota officials.
Trump
Is gonna Trump. He's a moron that bloviates. There really isn't a sane way to expect change from him, he's gonna be an Orange menace for the next few years. No getting around it. With his near imperial presidential powers there is not really a sane way to see him being forced to change either.
Stephen Miller
Is the architect that is the chief injector of chaos in these matters. His insistence on "mandatory daily numbers" of arrested illegals is what directly led to the primary issues of platoons of masked, under identified, ICE agents acting like goon squads.
Kristi Noem
She is the mouth-piece that is fanning the flames the most, because she makes baseless claims within minutes of the two events. That was dumb. I have no confidence in her ability to run a department like DHS. She's too subservient to Miller. Not something a Chief of department should be.
Greg Bovino
Hyped up gonk that needs a time out. Dude is too roid-raged to be running an agency of ARMED law enforcement personnel.
Tom Homan
I, mostly, agree with his approach. He is the professional in the room.
ICE needs to pull back off the streets, stay in fortified Federal locations and do daily runs to arrest known illegals WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT help. Local political leaders MUST help ICE by assigning policing to them. The FEDERAL government should give BLOCK GRANTS to pay for this in a timely manner. No more of these roving bands of masked agents. It MUST be supported by local police. Local police MUST do crowd control to alleviate these random morons getting in the face of ICE officers. Local police are short staffed, and if that means fewer ICE raids then so be it.
well damn .. as I was writing the above Tom Homan gave a press conference.
Chapped Ass
Squeaky Voice
"In September 2024, Tom Homan, the "border czar" for the 2024-2025 Trump administration, was captured on video and audio by the FBI accepting $50,000 in cash inside a Cava restaurant takeout bag. The cash was allegedly in exchange for promising to steer government contracts. The investigation was closed by the Justice Department." lol Yeah of course it was.
Sorry, I'm just putting this up here in case anyone forgot.
Sorry, I'm just putting this up here in case anyone forgot.
Goddamn_Prick
Loud Talker
Since he was not convicted of a crime, its ok to move on. Nothing YOU or I can do about it.
You sound like someone that does not want to fix a problem, you only want to be mad about the problem. Congratulations.
Got anything to say about my post other than what you already did?
Chapped Ass
Squeaky Voice
Na. Actually surprised how much we agree on.
Goddamn_Prick
Loud Talker
Chapped Ass
Squeaky Voice
He wasn't convicted because he wasn't even investigated due to cronyism. It's ok to move on, sure, but does that mean I have to forget that he took a bribe? Tell me that a Democrat being caught by the FBI taking a bribe and a democratic president squashing the investigation into it wouldn't make your eye twitch a little.
Tom Homan is leagues better than Kristi Noem and Gestapo Greg. And still he's corrupt as fuck. You sound like someone that would give five dollars to a thief because they originally demanded ten but you reasoned with them. And you're proud about it. lol
Goddamn_Prick
Loud Talker
Who gives a shit at this point really? Are you missing the point? Looks like it.
"The best is the enemy of the good" ~ Voltaire
Keep looking for the perfect representation and you will wake up every day disappointed. Homan has decades of experience in the EXACT FUCKING JOB that needs it.
This isn't that. THIS is putting the train back on the tracks.
Politics is rift with grift, Trump brings his grift into public and is shameless about it. Am I supposed to give up and wait for Jesus to return?
Bottom line .. if a politician is fed with corporate cash, or National Committee cash then they are by DEFAULT corrupt ... right, right?
We will never see an honest politician again mainly because WE are the ones that are truly corrupted with our incessant need for perfection.
Chapped Ass
Squeaky Voice
No, I get what you're saying in general. I agree in my own way. We're mostly-hairless primates who have evolved not necessarily for wisdom, accuracy, or empathy, but for survival. Sometimes I do get ahead of my own skees thinking that every man wants to live in an all inclusive paradise
Dude, just imagine a government that doesn't allow corporate or National Committee cash (bribes) for a moment and paint me a picture of what that would look like? Describe for me the horrors of hell itself that would ensue?! Oh my God, actual democracy not fucked with by big money interests. No, to answer your question, nothing is corrupt by default except human entitlement.
Perfection itself is an anti-American ideal. We are a pluralistic country of varied religions. It's always been a compromise from the very beginning of our country. Bernie is an honest politician but you overlook him for reasons, I guess. Oh right, he's not realistic enough for you.